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Trump vs. NATO: Could the military alliance survive without America?

Trump vs. NATO: Could the military alliance survive without America?

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This Is Not A Drill with Gavin Esler

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Trump has clear disdain for NATO – but could he really pull the US
out of the alliance? And what would be its prospects without
American support? In the current geopolitical climate, the annual
meeting this week of European military, security and political
experts – the Munich Security Conference 2025 – has a special
urgency. Just how far is the Trump administration truly in or out
on European defence? And what are the prospects for NATO in the
case of a transatlantic rift in the alliance? Gavin Esler talks to
Camille Grand, distinguished policy fellow at the European Council
on Foreign Relations and former Assistant Secretary General for
defence investment at NATO. • This episode of This Is Not A
Drill is supported by Incogni, the service that keeps your private
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60% off your annual plan. • Support us on Patreon to keep This Is
Not A Drill producing thought-provoking podcasts like this. Written
and presented by Gavin Esler. Produced by Robin Leeburn. Original
theme music by Paul Hartnoll – https://www.orbitalofficial.com.
Executive Producer Martin Bojtos. Group Editor Andrew Harrison.
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