Humans have a symbiotic relationship with plants. Plants coevolved
to suit our desires for nourishment, beauty, and altering
consciousness. Journalist Michael Pollan has investigated the human
connection to plants. This week on Science of Perception Box, Dr.
Heather Berlin and Dr. Christof Koch ask Pollan about modern trends
like ultra-processed foods, industrialized agriculture, and
consciousness-altering drugs from plants including caffeine,
cannabis, and psychedelics. For more than 30 years, Michael
Pollan has been writing books and articles about the places where
the human and natural worlds intersect: on our plates, in our farms
and gardens, and in our minds. Pollan is the author of eight books,
six of which have been New York Times bestsellers. In 2003, Pollan
was appointed the John S. and James L. Knight Professor of
Journalism at UC Berkeley’s Graduate School of Journalism and the
director of the Knight Program in Science and Environmental
Journalism. In 2020, along with Dacher Keltner and others, he
cofounded the UC Berkeley Center for the Science of
Psychedelics. Dr. Heather Berlin is a neuroscientist,
clinical psychologist, and Professor of Psychiatry and Neuroscience
at the Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai in New York
City. Dr. Christof Koch is Chief Scientist for the Tiny Blue
Dot Foundation and the current Meritorious Investigator and former
President of the Allen Institute for Brain Science. Join us for new
episodes every Thursday. Follow the show on YouTube, Spotify, Apple
Podcasts, Amazon Music, or wherever podcasts are found. Love
the show? Write us a review on your podcast app, or tell a friend
about the show. Visit unlikelycollaborators.com for more
information. Episode Chapters: (00:00) - Introduction (02:26)
- The Profound Impact of Food on Mood and Perception (04:17) -
Exploring Ultra-Processed Foods and Their Effects (06:45) - The
Psychological and Physiological Effects of Food (10:29) - The
Connection Between Food, Culture, and Education (17:46) - Michael
Pollan's Journey into Food and Agriculture (21:42) - The Symbiotic
Relationship Between Humans and Plants (22:55) - The Human Desire
to Alter Consciousness (25:15) - The Transparent Experience of
Coffee (25:47) - Caffeine's Benefits and Drawbacks (26:38) -
Exploring Consciousness-Altering Substances (27:18) - Psychedelics
and Cultural Evolution (29:02) - Creativity and Psychedelics
(32:52) - The Nature of Ego and Consciousness (41:11) - Public vs.
Private Self (45:31) - Conclusion and Final Thoughts
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