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Oren Cass, Paul Krugman & Mariana Mazzucato on Trumponomics

Oren Cass, Paul Krugman & Mariana Mazzucato on Trumponomics

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Last week, President Trump signed a memorandum calling for
reciprocal tariffs on countries that charge fees on US exports and
called his 25% tariff order on all steel and aluminum imports “the
beginning of making America rich again.” But is it? We turn to
three brilliant economists for their takes (and disagreements) on
the real impact Trumponomics will have on the U.S. economy. Kara
leads a spirited and insightful conversation about industrial
policy, the efficacy of Trump’s tariffs, how worried we should
really be about the U.S. 's trade deficit, the odds of an AI bubble
and bail out, and, of course, DOGE. Featuring: Oren Cass, the
founder and chief economist of American Compass, a conservative
think tank, and a contributing opinion writer for the Financial
Times and the New York Times. Paul Krugman, a Nobel
Prize-winning economist who writes a newsletter on Substack,
teaches at the City University of New York Graduate Center, and
recently retired his New York Times Opinion column after writing it
from 2000 to 2025. And Mariana Mazzucato, a professor of economics
at University College London, where she is Founding Director of the
UCL Institute for Innovation & Public Purpose and author of the
hugely influential book, The Entrepreneurial State. This episode
was recorded on Monday, February 10. Questions? Comments? Email us
at on@voxmedia.com or find us on Instagram and TikTok
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