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Ezra Klein & Derek Thompson: Less Obstruction, More Government

Ezra Klein & Derek Thompson: Less Obstruction, More Government

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Scarcity is a policy choice — one liberals need to reject and
replace with abundance, according to journalists Ezra Klein and
Derek Thompson in their new book, Abundance. They say that by
building a wall of bureaucracy in front of growth, Democrats have
created an affordability crisis, hindering their own progressive
goals and leading voters to flee blue cities and states. Kara talks
to Klein and Thompson about concerns around equity and access; the
tech industry’s culpability in all of this; which Dems are best
positioned to pursue an abundance agenda; and how pursuing
abundance can help fight the Trump-Musk agenda of cruelty.
Klein hosts the popular New York Times podcast The Ezra Klein Show
and writes an accompanying column on the intersection of politics,
policy and society. Thompson is a staff writer at The Atlantic,
writes the weekly Work in Progress Newsletter, and hosts the Plain
English podcast. Correction: Ezra Klein was a founder
of Vox.com, a news site created in 2014. He was not a
co-founder of Vox Media, the company that publishes On With Kara
Swisher. Questions? Comments? Email us at on@voxmedia.com or find
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