#646: Brian C. Muraresku with Dr. Mark Plotkin — The Eleusinian Mysteries, Discovering the Divine, The Immortality Key, The Pagan Continuity Hypothesis, Lessons from Scholar Karen Armstrong, and Much More
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Welcome to The Tim Ferriss Show, where it is usually my job to
deconstruct world-class performers to tease out their routines,
habits, et cetera that you can apply to your own life.
This time around, we have a very special edition featuring
Dr. Mark Plotkin and Brian C.
Muraresku.
Mark takes over my duties as host and interviews Brian for an
episode of the Plants of the Gods podcast. You, my dear
listeners, are hearing the audio before anyone else, so this is a
Tim Ferriss Show exclusive. I’ve previously featured some of my
favorite episodes from that podcast at tim.blog/plantsofthegods.
These episodes cover a lot of fascinating ground.
So, who is Dr. Mark Plotkin? Mark
(@DocMarkPlotkin) is an ethnobotanist who serves as president of
the Amazon Conservation Team, which has partnered with ~80 tribes
to map and improve management and protection of ~100 million
acres of ancestral rainforests. He is best known to the general
public as the author of the book Tales of a Shaman’s Apprentice,
one of the most popular books ever written about the rainforest.
His most recent book is The Amazon: What Everyone Needs to Know.
You can find my interview with Mark at
tim.blog/markplotkin.
And the guest today is Brian C. Muraresku. Who
is Brian? Brian (@BrianMuraresku) graduated Phi Beta Kappa from
Brown University with a degree in Latin, Greek, and Sanskrit.
The Immortality Key: The Secret History of the Religion
with No Name is Brian’s debut book. In 2020, it became a
New York Times bestseller, and Audible named it “Best of 2020” in
the History category. His website is brianmuraresku.com. You can
also find him on Instagram @brian_muraresku.
This is a tightly packed 55-minute interview. Mark and Brian
cover the Eleusinian Mysteries, the pagan continuity hypothesis,
early Christianity, lessons from famed religious scholar Karen
Armstrong, overlooked aspects of influential philosopher William
James’s career, ancient wine and ancient beer, experiencing the
divine within us, the importance of “tikkun olam”—repairing and
improving the world as we go—and much, much more.
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[07:24] Who is Brian C. Muraresku?
[09:19] The Eleusinian mysteries.
[11:51] The ridicule of Carl Ruck.
[16:18] Why are these ideas only being accepted now?
[18:22] How the Eleusinian mysteries influenced Christianity.
[23:54] A mind-altering Eucharist?
[28:07] The role of beer and wine in the foundation of
civilization.
[31:31] Patrick McGovern.
[33:33] Stoned apes and/or drunk monkeys?
[39:04] Changing attitudes at the Vatican.
[40:13] What’s going on at Harvard Divinity School today?
[43:14] Karen Armstrong and the God paradox.
[50:57] Ethnobotanists find friends in strange places.
[51:55] Doing good in the world based on the otherworldly.
[54:21] What is the Amazon Conservation Team (ACT)?
[56:10] Psychedelics at Harvard didn’t begin with Leary and
Alpert.
[58:35] Learning from past mistakes and respecting the heritage
of compounds from which we benefit.
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