#744: Jocko Willink and Sebastian Junger

This episode is a two-for-one, and that’s because the podcast
recently hit its 10-year anniversary and passed one billion
downloads. To celebrate, I’ve curated some of the best of the
best—some of my favorites—from more than 700 episodes over the
last decade. I could not be more excited. The episode features
segments from episode #107 "The Scariest Navy SEAL
Imaginable… And What He Taught Me" and episode #161
"Lessons from War, Tribal Societies, and a Non-Fiction
Life (Sebastian Junger)."


Please enjoy!


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Timestamps:


[00:00] Start


[06:27] Notes about this supercombo format.


[07:30] Enter Jocko Willink.


[07:59] What separates good leaders from mediocre or bad leaders?


[10:01] Identifying good leadership candidates.


[11:46] Teaching the skill of detachment.


[16:58] Jocko’s grueling workout that made platoons “tap out.”


[18:46] Jocko’s morning rituals.


[20:57] People Jocko associates with success.


[23:12] Recommended reading.


[26:57] How does discipline equal freedom?


[31:50] Enter Sebastian Junger.


[32:21] Thomas Paine and Stoic philosophy.


[34:25] The “chainsaw story” and its impact on Sebastian’s
writing career.


[38:27] Athleticism and long distance running.


[39:00] Developing a writing style.


[40:46] Sebastian’s attraction to journalism.


[46:22] Sebastian’s writing style and the importance of
structure.


[55:51] Commencement speech advice for high school graduates.


[59:09] Sebastian’s inspiration to visit war-torn countries.


[1:01:14] Explanation of “skin walkers.”


[1:05:00] Striving for political correctness in gender.


[1:11:43] The Iroquois’ peace process and its relevance to modern
politics.


[1:19:15] Psychiatric effects of war.


[1:22:07] Bringing primitive, war-time cohesion into modern
society.


[1:27:28] PTSD, the C-Train, and returning to New York City after
war.


[1:32:24] The lonely nature of society.


[1:36:24] PTSD prevalence in elite special forces units vs.
support units.


[1:41:30] How to “support the troops.”


[1:47:47] How a Viking helmet started — and stopped — a barfight
in Spain.


[1:53:16] Developing male closeness while decreasing violence.


[1:59:05] Veterans becoming victims in society after returning
from war.


[2:03:27] Photography/videography habits and Sebastian’s start as
a war reporter.


[2:07:45] Tim Hetherington’s story and Sebastian’s decision to
stop war reporting.


[2:11:02] Sebastian’s future writing plans.


[2:12:04] One thing anyone can do for a military veteran.


[2:16:14] Who comes to mind when Sebastian hears the word
“successful?”


[2:16:46] Defining courage.


[2:16:52] Most gifted books.


[2:17:46] What close friends say Sebastian is exceptionally good
at.


[2:18:09] Combining three writers to create the ultimate writer.


[2:18:47] Advice to Sebastian’s younger self.


[2:20:07] Recent purchase with the most positive impact on
Sebastian’s life.


[2:22:16] Something Sebastian believes, despite being unable to
prove it.


[2:22:23] Disliked habits and common practices of journalists.


[2:23:39] Advice from Sebastian’s 70-year-old self to his current
self.


[2:24:48] Knowing when to write a book.


[2:26:53] Sebastian’s billboard.


[2:28:22] Final requests for the audience and parting thoughts.


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