019 James Maskell – On Functional Medicine, Community, & Health Empowerment

00:48 – Dr. Stephanie introduces today’s guest, James Maskell


05:49 – James’ background and origin story


11:29 – The Functional Forum and James’ first book, The
Evolution of Medicine


22:47 – Statistics on loneliness


30:44 – How group visits work


38:50 – James breaks down the seven steps of The Therapeutic
Order


45:05 – James recalls a story about Frome, a town in the U.K.


51:10 – Profitability


59:58 – Scaling up functional medicine


1:03:38 – Tips and strategies for getting patients to open up
within a group setting


1:07:48 – James talks about the release of his latest book,
The Community Cure


1:10:07 – Where listeners can follow Dr. Stephanie and subscribe
to her newsletter


TWEETABLE QUOTES


“Having grown up in such a different health environment I just
sort of had a moment where I realized maybe some of what I was
born into is a part of the solution. And maybe I’m not born here
to be an investment banker. Maybe I’m here to follow a different
kind of a path.” (09:14)


“And, just to take a step back, it’s really healthcare where the
goal is self-efficacy. And, what that means is the goal where
people can take care of themselves and they don’t need a doctor
and they don’t need medication.” (14:10)


“There was one stat that I have in the book which is that if
you’re subject to a targeted rejection – which is someone
intending to break a social bond with you, like a divorce or you
get fired from your job – your risk of depression goes up by
twenty-two times.” (25:05)


“The reason why I think it makes sense to reestablish those
groups in healthcare is that, eventually, everyone comes across
some sort of health issue. And that’s a moment where we can sort
of bring them into a group if they need it.” (32:15)


“And the Therapeutic Order comes from naturopathic medicine, and
all it says is ‘we should start with the least costly, least
invasive interventions first and then work our way up to drugs
and surgery as a last resort.” (40:44)


“So ultimately, my vision for transforming healthcare is really
to create this bottom layer of empowerment groups that facilitate
turning on the body’s healing mechanisms and dealing with
weakened systems that have been weakened as a result of
malnutrition and so forth.” (44:20)


“Here’s the thing. If you teach someone to meditate and you do it
ten percent wrong, what is the downside risk of that? It’s
nothing. If you give people the wrong drug, the downside risk
could be death.” (1:01:13)


“I think that, for practitioners who are involved, I think you
really have to realize that your expertise is not as valuable as
your ability to help people help themselves.” (1:04:36)


LINKS MENTIONED


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James’ Website


James’ LinkedIn


James’ Instagram – @mrjamesmaskell


James’ Twitter – @mrjamesmaskell


James’ Facebook


James’ Books - The Community Cure: Transforming
Health Outcomes Together & The Evolution of Medicine


Functional Forum


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