War is a Laboratory for AI with Paul Scharre

Right now, militaries around the globe are investing heavily in
the use of AI weapons and drones.  From Ukraine to Gaza,
weapons systems with increasing levels of autonomy are being used
to kill people and destroy infrastructure and the development of
fully autonomous weapons shows little signs of slowing down. What
does this mean for the future of warfare? What safeguards can we
put up around these systems? And is this runaway trend toward
autonomous warfare inevitable or will nations come together and
choose a different path? In this episode, Tristan and Daniel sit
down with Paul Scharre to try to answer some of these questions.
Paul is a former Army Ranger, the author of two books on
autonomous weapons and he helped the Department of Defense write
a lot of its policy on the use of AI in weaponry. 


RECOMMENDED MEDIA


Four Battlegrounds: Power in the Age of Artificial Intelligence:
Paul’s book on the future of AI in war, which came out in 2023.


Army of None: Autonomous Weapons and the Future of War: Paul’s
2018 book documenting and predicting the rise of autonomous and
semi-autonomous weapons as part of modern warfare.


The Perilous Coming Age of AI Warfare: How to Limit the Threat of
Autonomous Warfare: Paul’s article in Foreign Affairs based on
his recent trip to the battlefield in Ukraine.


The night the world almost almost ended: A BBC documentary about
Stanislav Petrov’s decision not to start nuclear war.


AlphaDogfight Trials Final Event: The full simulated dogfight
between an AI and human pilot. The AI pilot swept, 5-0.


‘Lavender’: The AI machine directing Israel’s bombing
spree in Gaza: An investigation into the use of AI
targeting systems by the IDF.


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