Tankred Hase has experience working with various Bitcoin and
Lightning companies such as Lightning Labs and Swan previously.
He joins me to talk about Bitcoin, Lightning and Liquid. We
discuss some of the real world challenges and trade offs that
builders and developers face, as well as the likely path forward
from here.
Summary
Tankred discusses the current state of Bitcoin, Lightning, and
Liquid development. He highlights the progress made in terms of
user experience and liquidity. However, he also acknowledges the
challenges that still need to be addressed, such as capital gains
taxes, technical hurdles, and the need for more user-friendly
solutions. Tankred emphasizes the importance of having multiple
options for using Bitcoin as money, including custodial
solutions, Liquid, and trust-minimized solutions like Fedimint.
He also discusses the trade-offs involved in designing
user-friendly Bitcoin and Lightning apps. Tankred and Stephan
discuss the different trade-offs and options available in the
Bitcoin ecosystem, particularly in the context of Lightning
Network and Liquid. They highlight that while some Bitcoin
enthusiasts prioritize non-custodial and pure Bitcoin solutions,
many users, especially in regions like Dubai, Turkey, and South
America, opt for custodial exchanges like Binance for their
convenience.
Tankred introduces StashPay, a solution that leverages the Breeze
SDK and Liquid to offer lower fees for receiving payments. They
also discuss the future of Lightning, including broader adoption
of Bolt 12, asynchronous payments, and improved privacy for
receivers.
Takeaways
Bitcoin and Lightning have made significant progress in terms
of user experience and liquidity.
There are still challenges to be addressed, such as capital
gains taxes and technical hurdles.
Having multiple options for using Bitcoin as money, including
custodial solutions, Liquid, and trust-minimized solutions,
is important for broader adoption.
Designing user-friendly Bitcoin and Lightning apps requires
making trade-offs and understanding the needs of different
user populations. Users in the Bitcoin ecosystem have
different preferences and priorities when it comes to
trade-offs and options.
Custodial exchanges like Binance are popular for their
convenience, even among Bitcoin enthusiasts.
StashPay, using the Breeze SDK and Liquid, offers a solution
with lower fees for receiving payments.
The future of Lightning includes broader adoption of Bolt 12,
asynchronous payments, and improved privacy for receivers.
Timestamps:
(00:00) - Intro
(00:43) - Current state of Bitcoin, Lightning, Liquid development
(02:10) - Does the market support Bitcoin as a Medium of Exchange
yet?
(05:20) - What stops people spending/earning now?(18:42) -
Sponsors
(20:55) - Advancing Bitcoin as MoE
(29:49) - Sponsors
(30:45) - Using Liquid and navigating skepticism around it
(35:29) - What is StashPay?; Leveraging Breez SDK
(43:00) - How does it compare with BtcpayServer
(47:51) - Leveraging the economic density of Lightning Network
Links:
https://x.com/tankredhase
https://blog.onionmill.com/p/introducing-stashpay-a-bitcoin-wallet
Sponsors:
Bold Bitcoin
CoinKite.com (code LIVERA)
mempool.space/accelerator
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