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Andy Edstrom, Head of Managed Wealth at Onramp Bitcoin rejoins me
to discuss the govt. debt levels, retirement planning on Bitcoin,
price modeling, risks of leverage yield on Bitcoin and more!

Summary

In this episode, Andy Edstrom returns to discuss the evolution of
Bitcoin since their last conversation, touching on price
modeling, the risks of leverage, and the future of Bitcoin loans.
They explore the implications of government debt, the role of
gold, and the potential for yield in a Bitcoin standard. The
conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding market
dynamics and preparing for various economic scenarios.

Takeaways

Bitcoin's evolution has led to increased participation and
conversation on the world stage.

Price modeling in Bitcoin is fraught with challenges and
often fails to predict future movements.

Leverage in Bitcoin can lead to significant losses, as seen
in past market downturns.

The future of Bitcoin loans is uncertain, with a need for
better credit analysis and terms.

Retirement planning in a Bitcoin world requires careful
consideration of inflation and spending habits.

Government debt is at an all-time high, raising concerns
about future economic stability.

Gold still plays a role in the financial landscape, but
Bitcoin is seen as the future.

Yield may still exist under a Bitcoin standard, but it will
differ from current fiat systems.

The importance of maintaining on-ramps and off-ramps for
Bitcoin in the future cannot be overstated.

Expect wild times ahead as economic conditions continue to
evolve.

Timestamps:

(00:00) - Intro

(01:14) - How has Bitcoin changed since 2019?

(04:12) - How significant are Bitcoin Price Models?

(11:28) - Preparing for all possible scenarios when Bitcoin price
appreciates

(14:27) - Should you time the market?; Volatility, Retirement and
Tax events to consider.

(22:01) - How has the market for leverage on Bitcoin evolved?
(27:45) - Sponsors

(30:40) - The case for loans with Bitcoin as a collateral 

(38:04) - Retirement planning and achieving FIRE with Bitcoin?

(43:20) - Bitcoin on its way to $400K?

(50:14) - The instability of the growing US Govt. Debt - what
happens next?

(55:25) - Sponsors

(57:47) - The Haves and the Have Nots; Overvaluation of property
markets

(1:01:57) - What does yield look like on a Bitcoin
Standard? 

(1:13:22) - Closing thoughts

Links: 

https://x.com/edstromandrew 

https://www.amazon.com/Books-Andy-Edstrom/s?rh=n%3A283155%2Cp_27%3AAndy+Edstrom 

https://x.com/OnrampBitcoin/status/1836029421922263074 

Sponsors:

Bold Bitcoin

CoinKite.com (code LIVERA)

mempool.space/accelerator 

Nomadcapitalist.com/apply

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