Journalist Masha Gessen on the Trump Presidency and ‘Surviving Autocracy’

In their new book, “Surviving Autocracy,” journalist Masha Gessen
suggests that President Trump was “the first major party nominee
who ran not for president but for autocrat.” It’s this political
mindset that Gessen warns can become lethal as Trump is responding
to crises like the coronavirus pandemic and nationwide protests
against racism and police brutality. Gessen joins the program to
discuss their book, how they think Trump has transformed the
presidency and the role of “moral aspiration” in moving forward.