#197 – Jocko Willink: War, Leadership, and Discipline

Jocko Willink is a retired Navy SEAL, co-author of Extreme
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https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here's the timestamps for
the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click
the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) - Introduction (09:01)
- The beauty and tragedy of war (14:35) - Soviet Union in World War
II (20:54) - What makes a just war? (34:30) - Jordan Peterson
(37:42) - Fear of death (41:53) - Autonomous weapons systems
(53:28) - What makes a great leader? (56:15) - Elon Musk - a
leadership case study (1:10:03) - Steve Jobs - a leadership case
study (1:20:16) - Sundar Pichai - a leadership case study (1:27:15)
- Young Jamie (1:31:23) - Discipline (1:34:15) - A day in the life
of Jocko (1:40:30) - Jiu Jitsu (1:56:18) - Books