#438 – Elon Musk: Neuralink and the Future of Humanity

Elon Musk is CEO of Neuralink, SpaceX, Tesla, xAI, and CTO of X. DJ
Seo is COO & President of Neuralink. Matthew MacDougall is Head
Neurosurgeon at Neuralink. Bliss Chapman is Brain Interface
Software Lead at Neuralink. Noland Arbaugh is the first human to
have a Neuralink device implanted in his brain. Transcript:
https://lexfridman.com/elon-musk-and-neuralink-team-transcript
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the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click
the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) - Introduction (09:26)
- Elon Musk (12:42) - Telepathy (19:22) - Power of human mind
(23:49) - Future of Neuralink (29:04) - Ayahuasca (38:33) - Merging
with AI (43:21) - xAI (45:34) - Optimus (52:24) - Elon's approach
to problem-solving (1:09:59) - History and geopolitics (1:14:30) -
Lessons of history (1:18:49) - Collapse of empires (1:26:32) - Time
(1:29:14) - Aliens and curiosity (1:36:48) - DJ Seo (1:44:57) -
Neural dust (1:51:40) - History of brain–computer interface
(1:59:44) - Biophysics of neural interfaces (2:10:12) - How
Neuralink works (2:16:03) - Lex with Neuralink implant (2:36:01) -
Digital telepathy (2:47:03) - Retracted threads (2:52:38) -
Vertical integration (2:59:32) - Safety (3:09:27) - Upgrades
(3:18:30) - Future capabilities (3:47:46) - Matthew MacDougall
(3:53:35) - Neuroscience (4:00:44) - Neurosurgery (4:11:48) -
Neuralink surgery (4:30:57) - Brain surgery details (4:46:40) -
Implanting Neuralink on self (5:02:34) - Life and death (5:11:54) -
Consciousness (5:14:48) - Bliss Chapman (5:28:04) - Neural signal
(5:34:56) - Latency (5:39:36) - Neuralink app (5:44:17) - Intention
vs action (5:55:31) - Calibration (6:05:03) - Webgrid (6:28:05) -
Neural decoder (6:48:40) - Future improvements (6:57:36) - Noland
Arbaugh (6:57:45) - Becoming paralyzed (7:11:20) - First Neuralink
human participant (7:15:21) - Day of surgery (7:33:08) - Moving
mouse with brain (7:58:27) - Webgrid (8:06:28) - Retracted threads
(8:14:53) - App improvements (8:21:38) - Gaming (8:32:36) - Future
Neuralink capabilities (8:35:31) - Controlling Optimus robot
(8:39:53) - God