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Kara on Elon and John Legend on Kanye (and More!)

Kara on Elon and John Legend on Kanye (and More!)

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Kara and Nayeema kick off this Thursday’s episode with a feisty
discussion about Elon Musk’s Twitter and how he’s “kicking the most
active users in the teeth.” They give us the run-down inside Elon’s
band of merry advisors and Nayeema gets to the heart of why exactly
Kara is so angry with Elon … and so sad. Today’s interview is with
John Legend, the Emmy, Grammy, Oscar and Tony-winning artist (aka
EGOT) who famously moonlights as a social justice activist. But
before he was John Legend, he was John Roger Stephens: born to a
socially conservative family, sent to an Ivy League university at
age 16, and dabbling as a nerdy strategy consultant before his big
break. In fact, the first person to credit him as “John Legend” was
Kanye West. In this conversation, Kara and John speak about Kanye’s
descent into antisemitism and how he makes sense of a friend he’s
long last touch with. They also discuss how TikTok has changed the
music business, and why John is so hyper-focused on politics and
down-ballot midterm races (no, the artist has no plans to run for
political office – he’s just downright worried about the country).
Trigger warning: Kara does not hold back on her anger about Twitter
and Elon these days, especially at the very end – so make sure you
stay tuned for her final choice words ... or, as she calls it, her
“rant!” Disclosure: John Legend is on the board of directors
at Vox Media. This did not change the nature of our interview.
In fact, Kara started with what were probably the hardest questions
for him. You can find Kara and Nayeema on Twitter @karaswisher and
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