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Trump vs NATO: Could Europe survive alone?

Trump vs NATO: Could Europe survive alone?

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This Is Not A Drill with Gavin Esler

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From the crisis in American democracy to the collapse of the Middle East’s petrochemical oligarchies, this is your guide to the dangers that mass media isn’t covering.

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The fear that a re-elected Trump would pull the US out of NATO
haunts European leaders. Now he says he’d actively encourage Putin
to attack European countries who haven’t “paid their bills”. Could
a second Trump presidency really open the door for war in Europe?
What contingency plans is NATO making? Has Europe really underspent
on defence? And is Putin exploiting cracks in the European hard
right and left for his own ends? Gavin Esler talks to historian and
Senior Associate Fellow at the Royal United Services Institute Dr
Helene von Bismarck and Peter Apps, author of Deterring Armageddon:
A Biography Of NATO, about Trump’s dangerous ideas and populism’s
Putin problem. • “It would be incredibly naive to imagine
that, if Trump is re-elected, Europe will simple reorganise itself
to compensate… That takes time and it is time we don’t have.”
– Helene von Bismarck • “Regardless of whether we get
another Trump presidency, the days in which Europe was America’s
top priority are over.” – Peter Apps • “In the next five
to eight years it’s not impossible that Russia might attack a NATO
state… We have to start preparing to prevent this worst-case
scenario.” – Helene von Bismarck • “The head of the
Estonian military talks in terms of Russia being able to recharge
enough to attack a NATO country within one year of fighting
stopping in Ukraine.” – Peter Apps Support This Is Not A Drill
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too. Written and presented by Gavin Esler. Produced by Robin
Leeburn. Original theme music by Paul Hartnoll
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