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The new Dark Age of Espionage

The new Dark Age of Espionage

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This Is Not A Drill with Gavin Esler

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From the crisis in American democracy to the collapse of the Middle East’s petrochemical oligarchies, this is your guide to the dangers that mass media isn’t covering.

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The spying game was supposed to fade into history with the Cold
War. But Vladimir Putin’s historic grievances, obsession with
Ukraine and need to placate his own intelligence agencies have sent
a new wave of espionage across the world. The West thinks we’re at
peace. The Russians know we’re at war. So what are Western
intelligence agencies going to do about it? Gavin Esler speaks to
Russian investigative journalist and security services expert
Andrei Soldatov and former CIA officer turned novelist Alex Finley
about our new Age of Spies – from murders on foreign soil to the
information war on Kyiv to the infestation of Vienna as an
“aircraft carrier of spies” • “The first round [in this
espionage battle] was the Second World War, and Russia won that
one. The second was the Cold War which Russia lost. For Russia,
this is the third round – and it’s time for revenge.”
– Andrei Soldatov • “Ukraine is the kinetic war but
really this is worldwide hybrid war against the rest of us. It’s
much bigger than most people realise.” – Alex Finley
• “European intelligence agencies operate as if this is a time
of peace. For Russian agencies, this is a time of war.”
– Andrei Soldatov • “We’re at a pivotal moment in history.
Either we are going to secure democracy or we are going to enter an
authoritarian moment.” – Alex Finley Buy The Compatriots: The
Russian Exiles Who Fought Against the Kremlin by Andrei Soldatov
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episodes, merchandise and more. Written and presented by Gavin
Esler. Produced by Robin Leeburn. Original theme music by Paul
Hartnoll – https://www.orbitalofficial.com. Executive Producer
Martin Bojtos. Group Editor Andrew Harrison. This Is Not A Drill is
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