How Shopify rages against meetings | Kaz Nejatian (COO)

Kaz Neyatian is the Chief Operating Officer of Shopify. Kaz and I
spoke about about: 1. Why traditional career ladders are broken
2. Why strategy is the least important part of building products
3. Why Shopify canceled all recurring meetings. I think this
interview will feel like therapy if you’ve worked at big tech
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Chapter timestamps: [00:00] Nobody ever dreamed of sitting in
meetings [01:15] The difference between crafters and managers
[02:31] Traditional career ladders just don't work [04:36] Our
job is to rage against being a big company [05:43] Strategy is
the least meaningful aspect of product [07:15] People
misunderstand how great products are built [09:57] We're not an
OKR company [11:23] Why there are so few good product managers
[12:25] Operation Chaos Monkey to remove meetings [15:26] Why
managers need to value their personal craft time [16:06] Why
there are always no meeting rooms available [18:22] How to reduce
meetings on your calendar [21:02] Just because someone else does
it is a bad reason [23:33] The main thing is to keep the main
thing the main thing Where to find Kaz: X:
https://twitter.com/CanadaKaz LinkedIn:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/kasranejatian/ Get the interview
takeaways:
https://creatoreconomy.so/p/kaz-coo-shopify-craft-and-no-meetings
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