Stealing Fire. Interested or Repulsed?

In this mini episode, Joana talks with Ben Mason about the book
Stealing Fire. The conversation turns to questions of how we as
humans can work together to accomplish tasks, and if we do this
simply from a place of efficiency, or also from a place of
connection and empathy. Joana and Ben go into some of the inspiring
parts of the book, for example how new methods of working together
rely on developing high levels of intuition, and also on some of
the parts that really disturb them.